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« Reply #2 on: Oct 02, 2017, 03:49:42 PM »

The eBA Basketball Statistics Analysis System
El Sistema eBA de Análisis de las Estadísticas del Baloncesto


• eBA Basketball Statistics System III: The Possessions
• Sistema eBA de Estadísticas del Baloncesto III: Las Posesiones


(for the English Version, See Below)

Sobre la Fórmula de las Posesiones en Baloncesto

por Prof. Roberto Azar - Mayo 11, 2012 ~ Actualizado: October 2, 2017

• Sobre el Concepto:
      

Como se puede leer en nuestro documento Análisis de las Posesiones:

Definición de Posesión: Desde el momento en que su equipo obtiene el balón, todo el transcurso hasta que el otro equipo lo recupera.

Por lo menos para el propósito de este número, rebotes ofensivos no agregan posesiones. Esto es comprensible, desde que para determinar el costo de una Pérdida de Balón, por ejemplo, nosotros queremos conocer cual es la chance total que existía de que su equipo convierta antes de que el otro equipo recupere el balón. Ello incluye el obtener rebotes ofensivos, ya que la pérdida elimina la posibilidad de obtener "second


• Sobre la Fórmula:

El número total de posesiones ha de ser calculado como sigue:

( Lanzamiento de Campo Convertidos +
Rebotes Defensivos del Oponente + Pérdidas del Balón +
Llegadas a la Línea para series de 2/3 tiros libres )


Mientras otras fórmulas utilizan el coeficiente "Tiros Libres Intentados / 2" o "TLI*0.4", etc., el Sistema eBA utiliza el exacto número de posesiones finalizadas "en la línea" para 2 o 3 lanzamientos.


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About the Basketball Possessions Formula

by Prof. Roberto Azar - May 11, 2012 ~ Updated: Ocrober 2, 2017

• About the Concept:

Definition of Possession: the time your team gets the ball, all the way up until the other team gets it back.

At least for the purpose of this number, offensive rebounds don't add possessions. This is comprehensible, since to determine the cost of a turnover, for instance, we want to know what the total chance there was that you'd score some points before the other team got the ball back. That includes getting offensive rebounds, since the turnover eliminates the possibility of getting second chance points just as it did first chance points.


• About the Formula:

The total number of possessions a team has can be calculated as

Field Goals Made + Opponent Def. Rebounds + Turnovers +
Up to the Line for 2/3 free-throws series)


Meanwhile another formulas use the coefficient "FTA / 2" or "FTA*0.4", etc., the eBA System ;uses the exact number of possession ended "up to the line" for 2 or 3 throws.


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« Reply #1 on: Dec 26, 2010, 12:47:35 AM »

The eBA Basketball Statistics Analysis System
El Sistema eBA de Análisis de las Estadísticas del Baloncesto


• eBA Basketball Statistics System III: The Possessions
• Sistema eBA de Estadísticas del Baloncesto III: Las Posesiones


(for the English Version, See Below)

Sobre el Concepto de las Posesiones en Baloncesto

por Prof. Roberto Azar - Diciembre 24, 2010

Cuando utilizamos las posesiones para calificar ataques y defensas, un excelente ejercicio en el proceso de aprender a conocer el básquetbol, los beneficios de la definición que encabeza este trabajo se tornan claras.

Analizaremos las siguientes 2 situaciones:
1) Un jugador lleva el balón avanzando en el campo, toma un lanzamiento a 6 metros de distancia y convierte.
2) Un jugador lleva el balón avanzando en el campo, toma un lanzamiento a 6 metros de distancia y lo yerra, pero un integrante de su mismo equipo toma el rebote, yerra el putback, y entonces toma el rebote de su propio lanzamiento y finalmente convierte el gol en un lanzamiento en bandeja.

La primera situación implica una posesión convertida y una posesión total sin relación a cual definición es utilizada.

La segunda situación tiene una convertida y una posesión total utilizando la definición del comienzo. Utilizando el otro significado, esta segunda situación implica una posesión convertida y tres posesiones totales.

Ahora bien, cual situación representa el mejor ataque ?



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About the Basketball Possessions Concept

by Prof. Roberto Azar - December 24, 2010

When using possessions to rate offenses and defenses, an excellent exercise in getting to know Basketball, the benefits of this definition becomes clear.
We'll Analyze the following 2 situations:
1) A player brings the ball up court, takes a 20 foot jump shot and makes it.
2) A player brings the ball upcourt, takes a 20 foot jump shot and misses, but a teammate rebounds, misses the putback, then get his own rebound and finally puts in a layup.

The first situation involves one scoring possession and one total possession regardless of which definition is used.

The second situation has one scoring and one total possession using the first definition. Using the other meaning, the second situation involves one scoring possession and three total possessions.

Now, which situation represented the better offense ?



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« on: Oct 08, 2010, 07:29:54 PM »

The eBA Basketball Statistics Analysis System
El Sistema eBA de Análisis de las Estadísticas del Baloncesto


• eBA Basketball Statistics System III: The Possessions
• Sistema eBA de Estadísticas del Baloncesto III: Las Posesiones


(para la Traducción al Español, Ver a Continuación)

eBA Basketball Statistics Creative Analysis System
Chapter III: BASKETBALL POSSESSIONS ANALYSIS

Possession for a team, it is the period of play between when one team gains control of the ball and when the other team gains control of the ball. For an individual, a possession or part of a possession is credited when that individual causes to end his/her team's possession.

Table of Contents
• About the Possessions Concept
• About the Concept & the Formula
• Discussion & Commentary
• From Another Point of View
• About 'Points Created'
• Case Study Book & Creative Analysis Webinar
• Related Sources
• Assignment and Exercise
• Glossary of Statistical Terminology


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Sistema eBA de Análisis Creativo de las Estadísticas del Baloncesto
Capítulo III: ANALIZANDO las POSESIONES en  BALONCESTO

Posesión para un equipo, es el período de juego entre cuando un equipo gana control del balón y cuando el otro equipo gana control del balón. Para un jugador, una posesión o parte de una posesión le es acreditada cuando ese jugador causa la finalización de la posesión de su equipo.

Tabla de Contenidos
• Sobre el Concepto de las Posesiones
• Sobre el Concepto y la Fórmula
• Discusión y Comentario
• Desde otro Punto de Vista
• Sobre los 'Puntos Creados'
• Libro de Casos de Estudio & Webinario de Análisis Creativo
• Fuentes Relacionadas
• Tarea y Ejercitación
• Glosario de la Terminología de la Estadística


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