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« Reply #12 on: Jun 24, 2015, 12:09:57 AM »

Basketball Personal Fouls Case Studies Statistics • CdeEstudio y Estadísticas de las Faltas Personales en Baloncesto

• Como Registramos las Faltas Buenas, Malas y Neutrales
• How we Track the Good, Bad & Neutral Fouls


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Cuestiones de Registro de las Estadísticas del Baloncesto
En su NUEVA Evaluación de Faltas Personales, el Sistema eBA de Análisis Creativo de las Estadísticas del Baloncesto nos da las clasificaciones de Falta "Positiva", "Negativa" Y "Neutra".

Falta Positiva: cuando se obtiene una ventaja en el juego, p.ej. ...

• una falta intencionalmente dirigida a un cierto jugador para enviarlo a la línea;
• una falta para frenar un ataque rápido no estando en la penalidad (bonus); leer más...

Falta Negativa: cuando la accion implica una desventaja en el juego, p.ej. ...

• una falta cometida lejos del aro estando en la penalidad;
• una falta cometida dentros de los últimos 3-4 segundos del reloj de lanzameintos;
• una falta en lanzamiento cometida enun lanzamiento de 3 puntos; leer más...

Falta Neutra: cuando la accion no influye en el resultado de una jugada, p.ej. ...

• cuando neutralizamos un error del juez y no castigamos doblemente al jugador.
• una falta intencionalmente hecha para parar el reloj en el final del juego; leer más...

Many of those dots occur near the beginning of his attacks, allowing him to absorb contact early in the act, regroup, and still put up a decent shot. Like Dwyane Wade in his spinny, foul-drawing prime, Harden views the free throw line less as a 'charity stripe' and more as an 'opportunity stripe.' It might not be the most aesthetically appealing style of play, but it’s a smart approach for an aggressive, scoring-minded guard. In this Image by Kirk Goldsberry from GrantLand.com presented by eBA Stats Basketball Statistics Analysis .
Image: by Kirk Goldsberry from GrantLand.com


Registro eBA de las Estadísticas del Baloncesto=
De acuerdo a nuestro Sistema eBA de Análisis Creativo de las Estadísticas del Baloncesto registramos :
- en la categoría "Neutrales" aquellas faltas que no produjeron ventaja y no están marcadas definidamente y pertenecen a una situación de juego indefinido (como en 01:41);
- en la categoría "Falta Buena" las faltas que no produjeron desventaja (como en 00:32 y muchas otra situaciones en el vídeo) como faltas en lanzamiento errado; paradas de ataque rápido; paradas de reloj en los últimos minutos; penetraciones, etc.;
- en la categoría "Falta Mala":  faltas innecesarias después de límite personal o del equipo de las faltas (como en 03:12)

La asignación o reducción del puntaje está explicada en las Clínicas eBA EN-LINEA.

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Usted puede leer la lista completa de la Evaluación eBA de Faltas Personales en el Libro del Sistema eBA de Estadísticas del Baloncesto.

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Reggie Evans flop all over the world. The officials rewarded his foolish play, calling a flagrant foul 2 on Greivis Vasquez. After looking at the replay, the officials cleared things up and downgraded the foul to a regular personal foul. In this Image from Bleacher Report.com presented by eBA Stats Basketball Statistics Analysis .
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Basketball Tracking Stats Referred Questions
The eBA Basketball Statistics Creative Analysis System gives the classification of "Positive", "Negative" and "Neutral" Personal Fouls Made and Received for the NEW eBA Fouls Rating.

Positive Foul: when we get an advantage in the game, f.ex. ...

• a foul intentionally made on a certain player to send him to the line;
• a foul to stop a fast break not being in the penalty situation; read more...

Negative Foul: when the action involves a disadvantage in the game, f.ex. ...

• a foul made away from the basket being in the penalty situation;
• a foul made into the las 3-4 seconds of the shooting clock;
• a shooting foul made on three-pointer shooter; read more...

Neutral Foul: when the action does not affect the outcome of a play, f.ex. ...

• when we neutralize an official´s error and don´t punish the player twice;
• a foul intentionally made to stop the clock at the end of a game; read more...


Many of those dots occur near the beginning of his attacks, allowing him to absorb contact early in the act, regroup, and still put up a decent shot. Like Dwyane Wade in his spinny, foul-drawing prime, Harden views the free throw line less as a 'charity stripe' and more as an 'opportunity stripe.' It might not be the most aesthetically appealing style of play, but it’s a smart approach for an aggressive, scoring-minded guard. In this Image by Kirk Goldsberry from GrantLand.com presented by eBA Stats Basketball Statistics Analysis .
Image: by Kirk Goldsberry from GrantLand.com


eBA Basketball Statistical Tracking=
According with our eBA Basketball Statistics Creative Analysis System we track:
- in the category "Neutrals" those fouls where no advantage taken being not distinctly marked as indefinite game situation (as in 01:41);
- in the category "Good Foul" when advantage was not given (as in 00:32 and many more situation in the clip) as shooting foul, fast breaks cuts, cock stoppage in the "red zone"; drives in, etc:
- in the category "Bad Foul":  after personal or team limit unnecessary fouls (as in 03:12)

Points Prevented or Allowed are computed, and are explained in the eBA ONLINE Clinics[/b].


You can read the full list of the eBA Basketball Personal Fouls Classifications at the eBA Basketball Statistics System Book.


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« Reply #11 on: Jun 15, 2015, 12:03:02 AM »

Basketball Personal Fouls Case Studies Statistics • Casos de Estudio y Estadísticas Faltas Personales en Baloncesto

• Video: Good, Neutral or Bad Fouls Tracking ?
• Vídeo: Falta Buena, Neutral o Mala ?


( para Traducción al Español= Ver a Continuación )

Where are here the fouls ? And also: which are "good", "neutral" or "bad" according to your eBA Basketball Statistics Creative Analysis classification ?


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Dónde están aquí las faltas ? Y también: cuáles son "buenas", "neutrales" o "malas" de acuerdo con vuestro Sistema eBA de Análisis Creativo de las Estadísticas del Baloncesto ?

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« Reply #10 on: Dec 28, 2012, 03:44:01 AM »

Basketball Personal Fouls Case Studies Statistics • Casos de Estudio y Estadísticas de las  Faltas Personales en Baloncesto

Flopping

The NBA has put in new guidelines this season to combat flopping which consists essentially in giving the league office the possibility to watch film and sanction floppers after the fact with a progessive scale of fines.
 
This is similar to the way they have been progressively punishing players who accumulate flagrant or technical fouls throughout the regular season.
 
Since deciding in a split second whether a play was a block or charge is probably the toughest thing for referees to whistle, I feel that sorting out flops from charges will be no easier, creating a somewhat impossible mission for the NBA refs.

Judging flops after the fact poses the question of why don't they scrutinise ALL errors by the officials the same way. Of course this would be impossible and would create more problems than solutions so in general we will continue to accept that refs make mistakes and that in the course of a game they usually even out... except for flopping calls and injury-causing flagrant fouls.

Why set flopping apart? Because it's cheating say the decision-makers at the league office. The problem is, that for years now, referees would rarely call a charge UNLESS the defender fell down backwards to make sure everyone saw it.

Honestly, how many charges do you remember seeing being called when the defender DID NOT fall down? Not many! You often hear players and refs say" stand your ground and be a man and absorb the contact" but rarely is a whistle blown in this case.


Now to be honest and fair and avoid flopping the refs are going to have to make those calls while the fans will be screaming "let em play ref!".


NBA adopts anti-flopping rule


I agree that players acting like they got shot by a bazooka after a small contact is a pain in the butt and cheating but I think it's going to be very complicated to apply fair judgement.

The cutting edge will be when a player excessively exagerates after a small bump with the sole objective of tricking a ref. I am not too favorable to the idea off adding even more situations where refs can use instant replay because what we have now already slows the games down considerably.
 
Seeking perfection in the tough business of refereeing is an almost impossible task. Going back to the block-charge dilemma, I feel that 90% of the time the foul is a block on the defender who arrives late or is still moving when the shooter leaves the ground and this is systematically confirmed with the slow motion replay afterwards.

If everyone accepted this fact then less defenders would try to draw iffy charges, less dangerous and ugly pileups would occur in the paint and the offence would be at a real advantage which would produce more high-scoring and spectacular games!

I feel that watching help defenders trying to block a shot is more exciting and less dangerous than watching defenders try to draw a charge.

A similarly complicated call that is omnipresent in the modern game is trying to decide whether there was a moving screen or whether the defender was trying to bulldoze through a well-set pick.

For me these are more fifty-fifty situations with equal amounts of guilt for both parties concerned so just imagine what would happen if the league decided to watch film and correct all THOSE complicated situations after the fact !




To put things simply, I am in favor of any rule changes that would speed up the games, reduce dangerous contact and injury producing situations and increase scoring. What do you think ?

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« Reply #9 on: Sep 15, 2012, 11:23:09 PM »

Basketball Personal Fouls Case Studies Statistics • Casos de Estudio y Estadísticas de las  Faltas Personales en Baloncesto

• Vídeo: No Castigar Doblemente al Jugador  
• To Avoid Punishing Twice the Player


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Por favor, lea la respuesta al mensaje anterior, estamos en el mismo caso: el estadígrafo registra las acciones del juego y no es un crítico de los decisiones de los árbitros. En este caso, se puede anotar la perdida del balón como "de equipo¨para no castigar doblemente al jugador y haga un comentario en el registro de 'jugada-por-jugada' para recordarlo en el momento del análisis del partido.

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Please, read my answer to the last message, is the same case: the statistician records the game actions and is not a critic from the official´s decisions. In this case you can register the TO as a "team turnover" in order to avoid punishing twice the player and leave a comment in the play-by-play report to remember it in the game analysis moment.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 26, 2012, 09:22:24 PM »

Basketball Personal Fouls Case Studies Statistics • Casos de Estudio y Estadísticas de Faltas Personales en Baloncesto

• Doble Castigo por Error del Juez ?
• Double Punishment because Official Error ?


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Otro ejemplo del eterno problema del analista del partido por medio del vídeo: castigaremos doblemente al jugador por un error del juez ?
El juez pena una pérdida de balón por infracción de los 5 segundos: no importa cómo se mire esta jugada, no hay ninguna forma de que sea una falta, es evidentemente una jugada para callar el silbato !

Ahora bien, cómo registraríamos esta jugada,  de haber sido realmente penada la inventada pérdida del balón ?

Y que hay de falta y empujón sobre la lanzadora ( Blanco #30 ) en la ultima jugada ( min 2:01 ) ?


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Another example of the eternal problem of the game analyst by means of video: we'll punish the player twice because an official´s error ?
The referee call a 5 seconds turnover: no matter how you look at this play, there is no possible way that it could be an violation, it is evidently a play to silence the whistle.

Now, how we should track this play, in the case the invented turnover should be called ?


And what about the pushing foul over the shooter ( White #30 ) in the last play ( min 2:01 ) ?

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